Now obviously those numbers, none of us would say that all of those can only be explained as a miracle. What would happen if two people out in space a few meters apart, abandoned by their spacecraft, decided to wait until gravity pulled them together? I don't understand how it's possible for both those things to be true. That's such a good way to frame that. So if I'm dealing with historic, historiographic questions, historical reliability questions, I needed to deal with the issue of whether these kinds of things could happen. AfghanistanWhere Faith Is a Matter of Life and Death. But she, but it happened. The story is that the Dr Sean George had a heart attack, a thousand chest compressions, many electric shocks, went on for an hour and half -- Keener says 5 minutes without oxygen, flat line for an hour and a half. As Nathan puts it, it's telling believers who doubt "stop those naughty thoughts." I was talking with Antoinette Malumbay with my wife translating for me 'cause my wife knew the story only second hand herself. I wasn't able to be in touch with her for that year and a half, but I didn't know if she was alive or dead. There is nothing even close to an arm growing back. And this is not by any means the most dramatic story I found. The one-on-one treatments, when they show an effect, are confounded by the more intense experience, the one-on-one attention, the group pressures, etc You are adding a lot of psychological elements which make it harder to establish causation. The conventional wisdom that we hear kind of over and over again is that the prevalence of miraculous activity, is much more the developing world than it is in the west. He already was on disability for this. No one in medicine evaluates the effectiveness of a treatment from case studies alone, or even primarily due to case studies. unblinded) studies were better. But I think there's a good representative sample. So what made you want to go in this direction? Half received prayer; the other half didnt. Scott Rae: Wow, I guess it did. Healings, casting out spirits, nature miracles in Mark and so on. He doesn't seem to understand the ways that people can fool themselves. It's walked though in a 5-part blog series: We keep coming back to the question about how you would test for miracles. And so that's kind of what prompted me to investigate this issue.. What do atheists think of Barbara Snyder, who was healed of all her symptoms and all her illness to the point where 31 years later she's completely healthy? Somebody we know, actually there were two people we know, who are witnesses of that one. That's biola.edu/thinkbiblically. "One day, one of her friends called WMBI, which is the radio station in Chicago run by the Moody Bible Institute, and said, 'Pray for Barbara. Anyway, so it's the story of how we got together. in Old Testament from Dallas Theological Seminary, and a B.A.S. I misspoke in the episode for the next one, thinking the name was Barbara Snyder, but Barbara's case is an MS case. Sometimes there really isn't enough available evidence to substantiate a claim. Bizarrely, her calves were inflated and her once-atrophied muscles worked againand that's not all. Even for much more modest claims than the ones made in the above discussions, randomized-controlled studies are the gold standard. Here I summarize the (9 hour!) AAU board chair Michael McRobbie said Snyder was a natural choice Craig Keener: Yeah, and by the time Yeah and eventually it was over a 1000. And by teacher time it was 200 pages I decided okay, this needs to be a separate book. The deaf will hear. All I knew was the last letter I got from her said that she didn't know if she was going to live or die. It was from a different Congo so the person who did that doesn't know their geography. Adding to that, he had some skepticism about some of the charlatans who have been exposed for making false claims about healings and the like. He encountered scores of healings and other claims of the miraculous along the way, but there was one case in particular that truly blew his mind: the case of Barbara Snyder. Yeah ,that's what Ii just asked you about! but there comes a point when enough is enough. [] why are they not healed if the context matters and we're defining a miracle as you know divine intervention not just a highly improbable event then how come there's no divine intervention there and if the answer is well god works in mysterious ways who knows well you know that's kind of a hand wave, Elijah: i think also calling a handwave kind of undermines something is imagine you caught a murderer and uh you saw him shoot a guy and he goes well i i haven't shot anyone before in my life um is that what we're trying to show is these are real examples i can't explain the soldier coming home that that makes perfect sense but what i can say is there was a blind lady and she got prayer and her eyes opened up and she had macular degeneration they can verify that before and afterwards and i'm not sure it's rational to call those uh uh just coincidences. But in this case, he had to have the medical documentation be he'd been on disability. A gymnast back in high school, Barbara hadn't walked in seven years. I want our listeners to be totally aware, Craig Keener, just the two volume entitled Miracles. This was in 1981 that this happened. Knowledge falls on a continuum. This doesn't affect the doctor reports, but the personal reports. CT Patterns of Lung Disease, Dr.. Scott Rae: And then she made it safely to the U.S. and then you were reunited again. Each of those people are in the same position as the boy Elijah speaks about and will certainly attribute a God-given miracle to their healing. In his early 30s? As an Atheist, of course it didn't. its future, DiSanto said. Craig Keener: Thanks. partnerships that have drawn national acclaim. It involves Barbara Snyder and took place nearly 30 years ago. And when you dig in and you start interviewing some of the people and looking at some of the medical documentation, we're not talking about a little bit of evidence. God can heal us through exercise or just the things he's placed in our body. This would certainly be testable. So it seems to me you can't discount it all. The response is, essentially, that I am demanding too much evidence. But it's a wonderful volume. Also, while we have been generally optimistic that these miracle claims are not the result of deliberate fraud, one does have to consider that as a real possibility and find ways to rule it out. He ended up reading and it led him into a life of scholarship. Some of them, some of the critiques were based on an interview with me that was published in Christianity Today, rather than the book itself. It's in American History, which is not, well there's a lot of Americans who can teach American History, so she especially teaches French. Only 15 percent according to the polling that I did believe that miracles cannot happen today," Strobel said. And then if so, then how do you account for that? "It was really the miracle of the resurrection and the historical evidence for that that ended up bringing me to faith many years ago," Strobel told Pure Flix Insider and "The Billy Hallowell Podcast." James Fodor suggests, as an example, doing the prayer studies in different languages to help rule out some of the competing effects. James: yes so think about what Shermer has done. We originally met when we were, she was an exchange student and I was doing my PhD in New Testament at Duke. In this case, Shermer's argument is that there is a context (e.g. If you make such a claim, and that higher-than-average standard is not met, then you cannot be confident in that claim. Try comparing these claims to, say, the difficulty in confirming the Higgs boson, gravity waves, black holes, or the accelerating universe. It's the same reason large careful studies aren't done -- they simply don't care enough, and are already believing, so why bother? Her energy, integrity, and powerful commitment to collaboration have led to progress and partnerships that would have been unimaginable when she first arrived.. prayer, laying of hands, religious service, etc) where miracles are claimed to be happening but they happen in only a small part of those same contexts and there's not a good reason give for that difference. Nathan's point here is interesting, especially in light of the idea that the murderer example is not being used in the right place, that Elijah has this set of standard "tools" that he pulls out but doesn't seem to understand their use or limitations and is prone to misapply them. Now, Strobel, whose personal story was told through the Pure Flix feature film, book anddocumentarytitled The Case for Christ, has released The Case for Miracles, a new investigative book that relies on facts, interviews, and studies to further explore spiritual matters. "So she basically pulls the tube out of her throat, says, 'Go find my parents' [and] jumps out of bed.". And she'd also gone blind. What is being missed here is it shouldn't matter what the skeptic says -- the evidence should be strong enough to convince the skeptic. Feel free to reach out if you want more specifics on a given quote or study. And her hands had been curled up so much that every few months they had to uncurl her hands to get the dead skin out. Even if miracles could be the case, regardless of your worldview, how would you be able to demonstrate that God did it? For 15 years she had been going downhill. Although MS can come in milder forms, Barbara's condition deteriorated quickly. Make sure you see our stories daily directly to your inbox. Her feet and fingers were suddenly straight and normal again. One can have compelling evidence even when a case could be rendered stronger with even more evidence. conversation that I was a part of here: Bad Apologetics Ep 20 - Miracles & even MORE even NEWER Resurrection evidence where we respond to the Unbelievable? Barbara Snyder (Barbara Cummiskey Snyder) - healed from multiple sclerosis The institution that is referenced for the work is Global Medical Research Institute (GMRI) and the documentary about miracles referenced is Send Proof. The institution that is referenced for the work is Global Medical Research Institute (GMRI) and the documentary about miracles referenced is Send Proof. So we interviewed Antoinette Malumbay. This is special pleading -- wanting to hold their claims to a lower standard than other claims. Craig Keener: Well if you ask me what motivated me to write a 1000 page book on miracles I could say nothing because I wasn't planning to do it initially, but it was certainly one of the most enjoyable projects I've worked on. This miracle claim never came up in the episode. James is right that the evidence on a lot of these cases is really really bad. February 4, 2019 8. Or in Matthew 12 and Luke 11 where is says, "If I by the finger of the Spirit of God drive out demons, the Kingdom of God has come upon you." About a week and a half later at my daughter Allison's soccer there were like 20 families and 20 moms and dads there and one of the fathers that I had said hi to but i didn't know him, walks up to me and he says "Hi, I'm so-and-so" and I said "I'm JP" and he said "how are you doing?" We have to have miracles. He has a Ph.D. and M.A. Join us for this fascinating discussion of miracles today. We're here at the meetings at the Evangelical Theological Society talking with Dr. Craig Keener. Craig Keener: Well I tried to get accounts from all over the world. And we give Glory to God whenever we get the opportunity to be a part of those, but it's, we don't expect that, that the Kingdom, that we'll have experienced the Kingdom in its fullest now. Earlier in her career, she served as provost of Ohio State University . You don't mix, say, corrected and uncorrected measurements in a timeline unless you provide both at every time point you have. We will be fully healed with our resurrection bodies. Since these diseases are genetic, it makes it a lot less likely that she had this condition. In my opinion this study represents a larger trend that I have discussed before clinical research going backwards in quality after higher quality studies yield negative results. As you may expect, the studio's ruse is eventually found out, Lina never makes movies again and Kathy becomes a star and happily hooks up with the leading man. As I've said before, the fact that there are no videos of this sort is strong evidence against the veracity of miracles. It completely defies what is possible by any naturalistic means. I love this Bible study!" A Barbara Sent Home to Die Let me tell you now about a different Barbara, Barbara Cummiskey.2 When she was a teenager, doctors diagnosed Barbara with multiple sclerosis (MS). It was assumed that Stargardt's disease was the best fit for her symptoms, but she has no family history for this genetic condition. Well I shouldn't say everybody, but lots of people have love stories. One of the remarkable stories recounted in Lee Strobel's book "The Case for Miracles" involves a hopelessly ill woman named Barbara Snyder, who had suffered for many years with multiple sclerosis. We're all aware of suffering in the world, but miracles is a happy topic. By this point, she was almost blind and . in economics from Southern Methodist University. Craig Keener, Michael Shermer & Elijah Stephens and a video with Sean McDowell interviewing Craig Keener called Latest Evidence for Modern Miracles. I mean there was one person, it was so crazy. Back home it happens. Strobel, 66, is a former investigative journalist with the Chicago Tribune. The James Randi foundation did this as well, with a preliminary test before the more in-depth test. We had to cut 45% of it to make it as short as it was, but then again, I'm not known for writing short books. Author and evangelist Lee Strobel was once an atheist who served as the legal affairs editor for the Chicago Tribune before embarking on a quest to try and disprove Christianityan effort that ironically led him to embrace faith. #media. Barbara Rook "Babs" Snyder is an American academic and president of the Association of American Universities. Further, she also has a twin sister! Craig Keener: Probably what surprised me the most was the real evidence for it. This is a very important fact to grasp, so let me repeat it. None of these steps are taken in any of these cases. The primary studies here are Case Studies, which are some of the lowest and least informative types of studies in medicine (see https://guides.library.stonybrook.edu/evidence-based-medicine/levels_of_evidence) with Meta-studies, Systematic reviews, and Randomized Controlled Studies being the most effective forms. She's on her deathbed,'" Strobel explained. Scott Rae: So how did, how did she become a war refugee? To contact us or to submit an article, click here. I could just as well say that her brushing her teeth caused the healing, because she was healed in the evening shortly after she brushed her teeth. My oldest grandson loves to run and is always racing ahead, scampering up hills and sliding down ravines faster than the rest. "So, we know that at least 450 Christians began praying for her, because they wrote letters saying, 'We're praying for you.'". Craig Keener: Greg Spencer is a case of this. So her initial eyesight is 7/200, quite poor. Adapted from Editorial Theme html5up.net | @ajlkn, So I asked Antoinette Malumbay, "How long was it that Terese wasn't breathing?" It also calls into question the motives of God -- God is more concerned to give you a pool table than to cure leukemia in children or heart defects or nearly anything else. Craig Keener: In Christian circles it's been received really, really well. We know better now, and we often know what the minimum amount of data is to justify a particular claim. Scott Rae: That's staggering to think about. From the Send Proof film they admit that they can't publish Bruce Van Natta case because the accurate measurement of the length of intestine needed to verify the result we don't have the technology yet. And remember Think Biblically about everything. UFO sightings happened all the time in the 1970s and 1980s but suddenly drop when we put cameras in everyone's pocket? The situation was pretty hopeless until something quite shocking happened. In response, Snyder said, "I am proud to be president of Case Western Reserve and intend to continue in this role for many years to come. become the next leader of the organization that represents the 63 leading Indianapolis, Indiana. Scott Rae: Nabeel Qureshi, for the sake of our listeners who might not be aware of him, was one of the most, the most compelling apologists to Islam having converted to Christianity out of Islam himself. I had heard the story before from my wife, but it was actually when I interviewed the, my wife's source, that I got the details. But there is another reason to study proximal prayer, which in this study meant physical laying on of hands, not just being near the subject. Each of these is far harder than the rather trivial challenges to testing miracle claims. This kind of phrasing is trying to stop people from being skeptical of their claims (and only their claims). I confess I haven't made it through all 1000 pages. Thank you for being with us. Kamil: so he basically said, look the way we do it is that we have, let's say seven different possible explanations, six of them are naturalistic which we can disconfirm using science and then the seventh is the explanation that God did it. And sometimes there's also a catch-22 because after so many years the medical documentation has been discarded. In fact, history is full of bizarre coincidences that get downright creepy . There was no medical help available in the village so she strapped the child to her back and ran to a nearby village where family friend [inaudible] was doing ministry. The study mentioned by Strobel in the video above, and the one I mention in relation to healings of deafness and blindness and how it compares (very favorably) to hypnosis studies, The following is a section from Strobels book that references some of the gold standard scientific studies that show the effectiveness of prayer, which I briefly mentioned in the podcast. Further, the world is complex and any given effect can have many different possible causes, especially if we are talking about biological systems. As you begin your hike, set your sights on a new direction. The character played by Hilary Swank in the 2007 movie The Reaping was based partially on my work as a miracle detective. For example, if you take the population of people who go to Rome on pilgrimage each year, you can calculate the fraction of those with diseases that will go into remission. He wrote to the Social Security Administration saying, "I'm not blind anymore." She worked as a teacher's aide for Headstart and was a member of St. Mary's Church in Elmira, NY. The trick is you have to dig a lot to get the actual facts of the matter, they don't typically present these to you like "here's the facts, and this is why we think it is a miracle" it's "the guy's intestine regrew" but that's not an established fact at all that's their interpretation of a certain set of facts. It also highlights the need for detailed timelines to establish what the effect really is, before trying to grasp at causes. And also, a lot of my African friends say, "Look, life in Africa's a miracle. A legal scholar, Snyder was the first woman to serve as the Case Western's president. well; Barbara is a perfect fit.. If there's one thing I hope this film does for people that are inside of the Christian faith is that it makes them confident enough to go pray for sick people in impossible situations because that is a means to knowledge as well. [3] Before Snyder became president of CWRU in July 2007, she was formerly the executive vice president and provost of Ohio State University. She was doing her work in history. Sometimes we don't even get healing in this physical body in this life, but when it happens to any of us it's a reminder to all of us of God's plans for us. Bizarrely, her calves were inflated and her once-atrophied muscles worked again and thats not all. READ ALSO: Are the Biblical End Times Upon Us? Since this is touted as one of the best, and one of only three papers ever seemingly cited when skeptics ask for evidence of miracles, is not impressive to say the least. We average between 2 and 3 posts a day. We make a mistake in the episode here about corrected vs uncorrected vision measurements. Barbara was married to the late Robert L. Snyder. DiSanto said that he would provide additional updates regarding the search his term as board chair this Junewill lead a national search for her James points out that God seems to choose not to use all his abilities -- he could heal amputees, even while someone is in an MRI, but chooses note to. This phrase shows a profound lack of understanding what skepticism is. She deteriorated over a period of many years, several operations, many hospitalizations," Strobel explained. It is a notable pattern for something to become less observable to more carefully you're able to observe it. Prayer, in her house, probably occurs even more frequently. In all of human history there has never been one single credible and fully verified miracle cure. Stanford and Johns Hopkins University. because her twin didn't have it, it makes the original diagnosis questionable, the technology at the time is cited to be suboptimal in the paper, we can't tie the prayer specifically to the timeline, because of expectation effects and placebo effects, so causation is in doubt, she had a genuine improvement, but we have to ask which is more plausible, that there was a misdiagnosis (with the extra point about the twin sister) or the miracle played out in that way. Barbara R. Snyderis president of the Association of American Universities. But after a while it just becomes so overwhelming, but I said, "You know, I'm too skeptical myself. And I talked with two of her doctors from the time and they both testified, "Yes, this is, there's no medical explanation for this." It's not [inaudible] a short book. ", "CWRU President Barbara R. Snyder is highest-paid private college president in Ohio", Office of the President: Case Western Reserve University, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Barbara_Snyder&oldid=1129564651, Ohio State University College of Arts and Sciences alumni, Presidents of the Association of American Universities, Articles with dead external links from October 2016, Articles with permanently dead external links, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 26 December 2022, at 02:48. I don't believe Barbara Snyder was cured by the intervention of some agent outside the natural world. It was a prospective, randomized, double-blinded, controlled study of four hundred subjects. ago (Read also:Columbine survivors powerful lessons after facing terror). A lot of accounts have been published from Asia. Is this case unusual? Now of course, after six minutes with no oxygen you have irreparable brain damage starting in, but Terese had no brain damage. "It got to the point where she was dying. It's amazing that this kind of study convinces anyone -- it violates pretty much every rule of good medicine with its multiple selection biases, lack of blinding, and lack of controls. Do you have a testimony that is medically verified?. Barbara Snyder earned a bachelor's degree in sociology from Ohio State University and a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Chicago. We therefore have to design our investigation to reduce these biases and rule out other possible causes. If the Anchor.fm widget isnt showing up above, click here to listen. Tag: Barbara Snyder healing miracle ms. Above all, Max underscores, "Getting unstuck means getting excited about getting out.". Medine was a war refugee for 18 months in her country of Congo. Exactly when this point is depends on considerations around prior probability. Barbara had a very severe case of multiple sclerosis. Scott Rae: This has been an episode of the podcast Think Biblically, Conversations on Faith and Culture. Craig Keener: Yeah, and part of it was inherited through my academic training. perhaps a misdiagnosis of Stargardt's disease, and a gradual improvement for other reasons. You're an expert on the life and teachings of Paul. ), but with the best they ever give us (like the cases above), the second you dig a little bit you find that all the evidence kind of vaporizes or there are plausible alternative explanations that take only a minute to come up with. We are interested in the truth and are aware of many other factors (e.g. Visit Pure Flix for access to thousands of faith and family friendly movies and TV shows. This is the reason the specifics matter. So that, I mean that would almost qual, I mean three hours. He says, he's going back to these passages about the coming of the [inaudible] and saying, "John, these are signs of the Kingdom right now." This discussion is a summary of the high points of his 2 volume, over 1000 page books entitled, Miracles. The fact that they can only produce two or three, with serious procedural and reporting issues, is strong evidence that this effect is non-existent. Scott Rae: I love how you put that, that healing now is a foretaste of the Glory of the Kingdom. That's what he was praying for. Lina refuses to let Kathy get any recognition and keeps her behind the scenes, taking all the singing credit for herself. So welcome. After serving in several leadership positions at Moritz and within the central university, Barbara became OSUs interim executive vice president and provost in 2003 before securing that position on a permanent basis the following year. undergraduate and graduate students alike receive a world-class education. Dr. Craig Keener holds the F.M. claims with no available data, so one can't investigate, so one shouldn't believe it, claims with available data, where one can investigate, and it's shown that the evidence doesn't support the claim, so one shouldn't believe it, establish base-rates for the natural recoveries, evaluate alternative explanations -- and their prior probabilities, include both the positive and negative outcomes of the treatment, have good controls and experimental design to remove confounders. The fact that there are only two or three of these, that these are the best they have, given all of this time is damning evidence against their case that miracles actually occur at even the 1% level. When his wife prayed, having been told that he was gone, the heart monitor "sprang back to life" and then the doctors were able to revive him. I think a lot of times people will see something as a miracle because we're inclined to believe in miracles, you can also have confirmation bias to say I'm inclined not to see this as a miracle because I just don't think those things happen. All subjects demonstrated improvement from the intervention. of the members of the University Athletic Association are part of the AAU. I wear glasses. 2023 Blaze Media LLC. But in some places Like I had a student from India, a doctor of ministry student, who said almost everybody that he prays for in India gets healed. On GMRI's website there is the following request: "Were always looking for new testimonies. The answer is simple none. Stories of recalled past memories from past lives only occurs within religions that support reincarnation. I commented on the story here but there is very little to go on. From my reading also, MS can also go into spontaneous remission -- usually temporary -- but we don't have any follow-ups, detailed timelines documented, etc We have stories. Presidents of Case Western Reserve University, President of Case Western Reserve University, "President Snyder expresses gratitude for CWRU community, bids farewell; video reflects on her tenure", "Case Western Reserve's Barbara Snyder's had a successful rebuilding year", "CWRU's Snyder earns no end of accolades", "What's next for Ohio State after Gee's retirement? In my discussion with Jonathan McLatchie on the Still Unbelievable podcast, I said that there hasnt been a verified miracle claim even since Humes essay on miracles. It is quite clear that once you allow one miraculous healing in, using evidence of just one person, then one has to let in a whole host of others. Kamil points out that there is a mismatch between the magnitude of the claim and the attention they pay to documenting it. The bias is on the person making the positive claim. Meanwhile, her muscles were atrophied. You can get a free, one-month trial here. Plus these were not from people who burned child witches or anything like that. 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